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Pokseva: /* Replacement of front engine mounts (alternative method) */ instructions and photos for V6 (S350) engine.

2020-03-18T02:45:45Z

Replacement of front engine mounts (alternative method): instructions and photos for V6 (S350) engine.

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	# Completely remove the two front steering rack bolts using an 18mm open end wrench and impact socket. TIP: This will allow the rack to hang down and move forward but still allow easy re-installation.		# Completely remove the two front steering rack bolts using an 18mm open end wrench and impact socket. TIP: This will allow the rack to hang down and move forward but still allow easy re-installation.
	# Remove the upper engine mount bolts. TIP: On the V6 (except 4MATIC) and V8, there is little room for a socket due to the exhaust manifold. With the engine raised it is much easier to do this step though. From the top use a 16mm (or 5/8 SAE) ratcheting box end wrench and loosen the bolts (see the tools section below). They will not come out due to their length, but the engine mounts will drop off the bolts when they are loosened enough.		# Remove the upper engine mount bolts. TIP: On the V6 (except 4MATIC) and V8, there is little room for a socket due to the exhaust manifold. With the engine raised it is much easier to do this step though. From the top use a 16mm (or 5/8 SAE) ratcheting box end wrench and loosen the bolts (see the tools section below). They will not come out due to their length, but the engine mounts will drop off the bolts when they are loosened enough.
	# '''Remove the left side engine mount''' towards the front between the steering rack and subframe.		# '''Remove the left side engine mount''' towards the front between the steering rack and subframe (see photo below).
	# From the bottom of the car, '''remove the right side engine mount''' rearward and pull out between the catalytic converter, bellhousing, and subframe. TIP: You may need to raise the engine a tad if it will not come out easily. It may take a little finessing and tugging to remove.		# From the bottom of the car, '''remove the right side engine mount''' rearward and pull out between the catalytic converter, bellhousing, and subframe. TIP: You may need to raise the engine a tad if it will not come out easily. It may take a little finessing and tugging to remove. TIP: On V6 engines (e.g., S350) there is enough space to remove and install right mount from the top of engine (see photo below).
	# Press the new mounts into the same areas the old ones came from. TIP: Get into a position under the car where you are supported and can hold the engine mount against the upper bracket with one hand and still reach the upper bolt with a couple fingers of the other hand. As you press the mount against the upper bracket, screw the bolt into the mount. Just a couple threads is all you need. Now spin the mount clockwise to tighten while keeping a finger on the bolt. After several spins, you will feel there is a place where the mount locating pin will pop into the recess on the upper mount bracket. At this point the mount will no longer spin.		# Press the new mounts into the same areas the old ones came from. TIP: Get into a position under the car where you are supported and can hold the engine mount against the upper bracket with one hand and still reach the upper bolt with a couple fingers of the other hand. As you press the mount against the upper bracket, screw the bolt into the mount. Just a couple threads is all you need. Now spin the mount clockwise to tighten while keeping a finger on the bolt. After several spins, you will feel there is a place where the mount locating pin will pop into the recess on the upper mount bracket. At this point the mount will no longer spin.
	# You can now go to the top of the engine and fully tighten the bolt to ~55NM. TIP: Tightening the upper bolt is much easier while the engine is still lifted.		# You can now go to the top of the engine and fully tighten the bolt to ~55NM. TIP: Tightening the upper bolt is much easier while the engine is still lifted.
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	Universal instruction for Mercedes-Benz cars with the V6 and V8 engine: http://www.mercedesmedic.com/diy-engine-mount-replacement-with-pictures-video-mercedes-benz/		Universal instruction for Mercedes-Benz cars with the V6 and V8 engine: http://www.mercedesmedic.com/diy-engine-mount-replacement-with-pictures-video-mercedes-benz/

	~~On 4MATIC (S350) the engine mount replacement is easier because engine mount bolts are easily accessible.~~
	{\|		{\|
	\|{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYqEVVxi934\|320\|center\|W220 4MATIC (S350) engine mount replacement.\|frame}}		\|{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYqEVVxi934\|320\|center\|W220 4MATIC (S350) engine mount replacement. On 4MATIC (S350) the engine mount replacement is easier because engine mount bolts are easily accessible.
			\|frame}}
			\|}

			{\|
			\|[[File:W220_left_engine_mount_installation_V6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|Pushing up the new left mount between the lowered steering rack and subframe. Shown on S350.]]
			\|[[File:W220_left_engine_mount_installed_V6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|The new left mount installed. Shown on S350.]]
			\|[[File:W220_right_engine_mount_installation_V6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|Pushing down the new right mount from the top (V6 engines only). Shown on S350.]]
	\|}		\|}

Pokseva: /* Engine mounts (front) */ A2032410413 installed at factory

2020-03-18T02:22:04Z

Engine mounts (front): A2032410413 installed at factory

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	S280/S320/S350:		S280/S320/S350:
			* A2032410413 (installed at factory)
	* A2032411313		* A2032411313
	* LEMFÖRDER 25390 01		* LEMFÖRDER 25390 01

Pokseva: /* Remove/install rear engine mount */ facelift photos

2020-01-04T12:50:54Z

Remove/install rear engine mount: facelift photos

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	# Install in the reverse order		# Install in the reverse order

	''One suggested "variation" from the WIS technique is to not remove the crossmember. You can loosen it sufficiently to get the mount in/out if you minimally (1 or 2 cm) raise the transmission pan.''		''One suggested "variation" from the WIS technique is to not remove the crossmember. You can loosen it sufficiently to get the mount in/out if you minimally (1 or 2 cm) raise the transmission pan. This does not work on facelift vehicles as facelift has longer crossmember bolted with 4 bolts on each side (see photo below).''

	{\|		{\|
	\|{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PKtLJbFVhY\|320\|center\|Transmission mount replacement by removing the crossmember.\|frame}}		\|{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PKtLJbFVhY\|320\|center\|Transmission mount replacement by removing the crossmember (pre-facelift).\|frame}}
	\|{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4RXNl2nkQo\|320\|center\|Transmission mount replacement without removing the crossmember.\|frame}}		\|{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4RXNl2nkQo\|320\|center\|Transmission mount replacement without removing the crossmember (not on W220).\|frame}}
			\|}

			{\|
			\|[[File:W220_engine_crossmember_facelift.jpg\|thumb\|none\|Crossmember (facelift)]]
			\|[[File:W220_engine_crossmember_removed_transmission_mount.jpg\|thumb\|none\|Transmission mount (crossmember removed)]]
			\|[[File:W220_engine_crossmember_removed_transmission_mount_removed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|Crossmember and engine mount removed]]
	\|}		\|}

Pokseva: /* Part numbers */ note about lemforder being OEM

2019-12-14T23:53:12Z

Part numbers: note about lemforder being OEM

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	== Part numbers ==		== Part numbers ==
	[[File:W220_epc_engine_suspension.png\|500px]]		[[File:W220_epc_engine_suspension.png\|500px]]

			The original mounts on the Mercedes-Benz are made by LEMFÖRDER. Even though genuine mounts are expensive, the general opinion is to NOT buy aftermarket brands

	=== Engine mounts (front) ===		=== Engine mounts (front) ===
	Both mounts (left and right) have the same part number.		Both mounts (left and right) have the same part number.

Pokseva: /* Part numbers */ EPC photo

2019-12-14T23:40:34Z

Part numbers: EPC photo

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	== Part numbers ==		== Part numbers ==
			[[File:W220_epc_engine_suspension.png\|500px]]
	=== Engine mounts (front) ===		=== Engine mounts (front) ===
	Both mounts (left and right) have the same part number.		Both mounts (left and right) have the same part number.

Pokseva at 23:36, 14 December 2019

2019-12-14T23:36:27Z

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	~~Back to '''[[Index]]'''~~

	== Engine mounts==		== Engine mounts==

Pokseva: fix youtube linked

2019-12-14T23:35:40Z

fix youtube linked

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	* LEMFÖRDER 33875 01		* LEMFÖRDER 33875 01
	* MEYLE 014 024 1054 (original quality)		* MEYLE 014 024 1054 (original quality)
	* MEYLE 014 024 1100/HD ([https://~~www~~.~~youtube.com~~/~~watch?v=~~Ko14ENtXfNM high durability])		* MEYLE 014 024 1100/HD ([https://youtu.be/Ko14ENtXfNM high durability])

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Pokseva: /* Replacement of front engine mounts (alternative method) */ youtube video

2019-12-14T23:27:26Z

Replacement of front engine mounts (alternative method): youtube video

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	Universal instruction for Mercedes-Benz cars with the V6 and V8 engine: http://www.mercedesmedic.com/diy-engine-mount-replacement-with-pictures-video-mercedes-benz/		Universal instruction for Mercedes-Benz cars with the V6 and V8 engine: http://www.mercedesmedic.com/diy-engine-mount-replacement-with-pictures-video-mercedes-benz/

			On 4MATIC (S350) the engine mount replacement is easier because engine mount bolts are easily accessible.
			{\|
			\|{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYqEVVxi934\|320\|center\|W220 4MATIC (S350) engine mount replacement.\|frame}}
			\|}

	== Rear engine mount (transmission mount) replacement ==		== Rear engine mount (transmission mount) replacement ==

Pokseva: /* Transmission mount (rear engine mount) replacement */

2019-12-14T23:24:46Z

Transmission mount (rear engine mount) replacement

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	Universal instruction for Mercedes-Benz cars with the V6 and V8 engine: http://www.mercedesmedic.com/diy-engine-mount-replacement-with-pictures-video-mercedes-benz/		Universal instruction for Mercedes-Benz cars with the V6 and V8 engine: http://www.mercedesmedic.com/diy-engine-mount-replacement-with-pictures-video-mercedes-benz/

	== ~~Transmission~~ mount (~~rear engine~~ mount) replacement ==		== Rear engine mount (transmission mount) replacement ==

	A rear engine (transmission mount) replacement is a super easy job - it takes less than 2 hours to do the job without jacking the car at all four jacking points. It actually takes more time to get the car lifted, as it does to remove and replace the mount, plus, as opposed to the "expensive" front mounts, the rear mount costs ~ 20 EUR. The procedure shown in this video is on W220 S500 (2000), but may be as applicable to many other Mercedes models of the same year and even other years.		A rear engine mount (transmission mount) replacement is a super easy job - it takes less than 2 hours to do the job without jacking the car at all four jacking points. It actually takes more time to get the car lifted, as it does to remove and replace the mount, plus, as opposed to the "expensive" front mounts, the rear mount costs ~ 20 EUR. The procedure shown in this video is on W220 S500 (2000), but may be as applicable to many other Mercedes models of the same year and even other years.

	{\|
	~~\|{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PKtLJbFVhY\|320\|center\|Replace Transmission Mount (By Masood)\|frame}}~~
	\|}

	* One suggested "variation" from the WIS technique is to not remove the crossmember. You can loosen it sufficiently to get the mount in/out if you minimally (1 or 2 cm) raise the transmission pan.

	=== Remove/install rear engine mount ===		=== Remove/install rear engine mount ===
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	# Detach rear engine mount (2) from transmission. Installation: Attach ground strap at engine mount, in order to avoid damage to electrical system.		# Detach rear engine mount (2) from transmission. Installation: Attach ground strap at engine mount, in order to avoid damage to electrical system.
	# Install in the reverse order		# Install in the reverse order

			''One suggested "variation" from the WIS technique is to not remove the crossmember. You can loosen it sufficiently to get the mount in/out if you minimally (1 or 2 cm) raise the transmission pan.''

			{\|
			\|{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PKtLJbFVhY\|320\|center\|Transmission mount replacement by removing the crossmember.\|frame}}
			\|{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4RXNl2nkQo\|320\|center\|Transmission mount replacement without removing the crossmember.\|frame}}
			\|}

	== Tools ==		== Tools ==

Pokseva: /* Replacement of front engine mounts (alternative method) */

2019-12-14T23:16:16Z

Replacement of front engine mounts (alternative method)

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	# Using a deep well 18mm socket, retain the nut inside the subframe channel on the two rear bolts. Using another 18mm impact socket or wrench loosen the two rear bolts. TIP: Do not fully remove the rear two bolts but make them as loose as possible while still keeping the nut on the bolt.		# Using a deep well 18mm socket, retain the nut inside the subframe channel on the two rear bolts. Using another 18mm impact socket or wrench loosen the two rear bolts. TIP: Do not fully remove the rear two bolts but make them as loose as possible while still keeping the nut on the bolt.
	# Completely remove the two front steering rack bolts using an 18mm open end wrench and impact socket. TIP: This will allow the rack to hang down and move forward but still allow easy re-installation.		# Completely remove the two front steering rack bolts using an 18mm open end wrench and impact socket. TIP: This will allow the rack to hang down and move forward but still allow easy re-installation.
	# Remove the upper engine mount bolts. TIP: On the V6 and V8, there is little room for a socket due to the exhaust manifold. With the engine raised it is much easier to do this step though. From the top use a 16mm (or 5/8 SAE) ratcheting box end wrench and loosen the bolts (see the tools section below). They will not come out due to their length, but the engine mounts will drop off the bolts when they are loosened enough.		# Remove the upper engine mount bolts. TIP: On the V6 (except 4MATIC) and V8, there is little room for a socket due to the exhaust manifold. With the engine raised it is much easier to do this step though. From the top use a 16mm (or 5/8 SAE) ratcheting box end wrench and loosen the bolts (see the tools section below). They will not come out due to their length, but the engine mounts will drop off the bolts when they are loosened enough.
	# '''Remove the left side engine mount''' towards the front between the steering rack and subframe.		# '''Remove the left side engine mount''' towards the front between the steering rack and subframe.
	# From the bottom of the car, '''remove the right side engine mount''' rearward and pull out between the catalytic converter, bellhousing, and subframe. TIP: You may need to raise the engine a tad if it will not come out easily. It may take a little finessing and tugging to remove.		# From the bottom of the car, '''remove the right side engine mount''' rearward and pull out between the catalytic converter, bellhousing, and subframe. TIP: You may need to raise the engine a tad if it will not come out easily. It may take a little finessing and tugging to remove.