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Most enthusiasts replace a failed Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan) with a complete new unit but on later models with inbuilt Fan Control Module it is possible to just replace the fan motor and controller with consequent savings on cost and shipping. Check eBay for suppliers of fan motors. | Most enthusiasts replace a failed Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan) with a complete new unit but on later models with inbuilt Fan Control Module it is possible to just replace the fan motor and controller with consequent savings on cost and shipping. Check eBay for suppliers of fan motors. | ||
== | == Parts == | ||
The Diagnosis and repair was done on a W204 but is relevant to other M-B models | |||
S500/S450/S350: | |||
* A2205000193 600W | |||
Motor and relay are not sold separately, but used parts can be purchased on eBay. | |||
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|[[File:W220_engine_fan_A2205000193_front.jpg|thumb|none|A2205000193 front]] | |||
|[[File:W220_engine_fan_A2205000193_back.jpg|thumb|none|A2205000193 back]] | |||
|[[File:W220_engine_fan_motor_and_relay.jpg|thumb|none|Motor and relay]] | |||
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== Wiring == | |||
The connector has 4 wires: | |||
* Ground | |||
* 12v positive | |||
* 12v volt when ignition on | |||
* ECM signal (PWM modulated duty cycle/speed) | |||
==Removing cooling fan == | |||
This video shows in detail how to replace the Cooling Fan on your W220 (S500/S430) by removing coolant hoses: | |||
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|{{#ev:youtube|https://youtu.be/XGsTMF4OTT8|320|left|Replace Engine Fan (By Masood)|frame}} | |||
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By using more patience and wiggling it is possible to remove the cooling fan without removing coolant hoses: | |||
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|{{#ev:youtube|https://youtu.be/8YuRJfDdWh0|320|left|Remove engine fan|frame}} | |||
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In case of a faulty motor or control module, it is possible to swap it from other OEM fan: | |||
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|{{#ev:youtube|https://youtu.be/ZufpP3SkJ9M|320|left|Radiator Coolant Fan Module Replacement|frame}} | |||
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The following Diagnosis and repair was done on a W204 but is relevant to other M-B models: | |||
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w204-c63-amg/2023625-w204-2008-electric-fan-fault-diagnosis.html#post8900649 | http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w204-c63-amg/2023625-w204-2008-electric-fan-fault-diagnosis.html#post8900649 | ||
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Description - Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan)
In STAR DAS and WIS, the Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan) is referred to as “combustion engine and air conditioning with integrated control fan motor” and is designated M4/7.
The Electric Fan (M4/7) is about 600W which means that large currents are required for it to operate. The fan motor receives command pulses from the Fan Control Unit. In early vehicles the Fan Control Unit was a separate part and mounted on the fan shroud. On later models the Fan Control Unit was built in to the fan motor.
Each type of Fan Control Unit employs PWM which stands for Pulse Width Modulation and refers to the very efficient method for controlling the fan motor speed. The voltage applied to the fan motor is "chopped" between 0V and 12V with the resulting fan speed being determined by the degree of "chopping".
Typical PWM Control Signals
These diagrams were obtained by observing Cathode Ray Oscilloscope (CRO) measurements of typical control signals and the Suction Fan voltages.
10% or zero RPM condition.
90% or full speed RPM condition.
The control signals from the Fan Control Unit match the above diagrams except that the amplitude of the signals is about 3Vp-p instead of 12Vp-p.
Issues - Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan)
A common cause of no fan rotation is a failed Fan Control Module, either external or inbuilt. The large currents can stress electronic components and the car is a hostile environment with vibration, heat, and moisture all present in large quantities. A weak component or electrical connection can also produce a large amount of heat due to the very high currents being controlled, thus leading to complete failure.
Suction Fan Motor A204 540 07 88 with cover removed.
Burnt solder joint in Suction Fan Motor.
Repair - Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan)
Most enthusiasts replace a failed Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan) with a complete new unit but on later models with inbuilt Fan Control Module it is possible to just replace the fan motor and controller with consequent savings on cost and shipping. Check eBay for suppliers of fan motors.
Parts
S500/S450/S350:
- A2205000193 600W
Motor and relay are not sold separately, but used parts can be purchased on eBay.
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Wiring
The connector has 4 wires:
- Ground
- 12v positive
- 12v volt when ignition on
- ECM signal (PWM modulated duty cycle/speed)
Removing cooling fan
This video shows in detail how to replace the Cooling Fan on your W220 (S500/S430) by removing coolant hoses:
By using more patience and wiggling it is possible to remove the cooling fan without removing coolant hoses:
In case of a faulty motor or control module, it is possible to swap it from other OEM fan:
The following Diagnosis and repair was done on a W204 but is relevant to other M-B models:
Adjust Threshold Temperature - Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan)
Summary - Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan)
This DIY document refers to both W211 and W220 models and may be relevant to other Mercedes-Benz models.
STAR DAS can be used to adjust the “Correction programming of the electric suction fan for engine or air conditioning”. “The correction is used for shifting the engine temperature dependence of the electric suction fan for engine or air conditioning”. That is adjust the Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan) Threshold Temperature.
By changing the temperature at which the cooling fan on my 2003 W220 S500L comes on to a lower value, I have improved the performance of the car’s air conditioning on hot days. The air coming from the cabin vents now feels sharp (cold) even when the car is idling at traffic lights. Before the adjustment, the cabin became noticeably and uncomfortably warmer after idling for a few minutes.
Note my air conditioner is permanently left on at 22°C or 23°C in automatic mode.
Result - Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan)
Detailed Engine Coolant Temperature versus time graphs (before and after adjusting the Temperature Correction Value) are shown.
Sample of data results: A Temperature Correction Value of 0°C (M-B Factory Setting) means the Engine Cooling Fan switches on at 97°C and off at 92°C. This can clearly be seen in the sample graph.
In my opinion the ACC now works as M-B intended, that is completely effectively, even in extremely hot climates, and quite unobtrusively, befitting the performance and elegance of an ‘S’ Class.
In the process I discovered a fabulous tool for wirelessly logging data from my car to my Smart Phone and Desktop Computer. Refer to: Code Readers
Acknowledgement - Engine Electric Suction Fan (Cooling Fan)
This DIY document was based on posts by MBWorld member ‘aleksandar1099’, ‘Jakpro1’, and ‘vrus’ and BenzWorld members ‘Saeed Amini’, ‘wallyp’, ‘jnash’ and 'Ex-Fed'.
Refer to BenzWorld Thread and DIY pdf attachment at Post #49:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w220-s-class/1735481-question-about-star-diagnosis-5.html