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== COMAND-APS (ECE) ==
For vehicles with [[Data Card|option code]] 527 (ECE):
 
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_ECE_A2208274142_front.jpg|thumb|none|]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_ECE_A2208274142_back.jpg|thumb|none]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_ECE_A2208274142_label.jpg|thumb|none]]
|}
 
{| class="wikitable"
! Part No.
! Notes
|-
|A2208271942
|From Date: 28/10/2003, To Date: 30/06/2004
|-
|A2208274142
|From Date: 28/10/2003, To Date: 30/06/2004
|-
|A2208702189
|From Date: 29/06/2004, To Date: 01/12/2004, Replaced by: A2208702389
|-
|A2208702389
|From Date: 29/06/2004, To Date: 01/12/2004
|-
|A2208703389
|From Date: 01/12/2004, To Date: 04/04/2005, Replaced by: A2208703789
|-
|A2208703789
|From Date: 01/12/2004, Replaced by: A2208702589
|-
|A2208702589
|From Date: 01/12/2004, '''No cassette player'''
|}
 
== COMAND-APS (USA) ==
For vehicles with option code [[Option_codes#530_-_COMAND_DVD_APS_USA_WITH_NAVIGATION|530 - COMAND DVD APS USA WITH NAVIGATION]]:
 
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_ECE_A2208274242_front.jpg|thumb|none|]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_ECE_A2208274242_back.jpg|thumb|none]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_ECE_A2208274242_label.jpg|thumb|none]]
|}
 
The USA COMAND version from ECE version does not differ much.
In USA version all buttons have text while ECE version uses pictograms.
A significant difference is that USA version has "SAT" button for [[MOST Satellite Radio|Satellite Radio]],
while ECE version has "VIDEO" button for watching DVDs and optionally [[MOST Television|TV]].
 
{| class="wikitable"
! Part No.
! Notes
|-
|A2208272042
|From Date: 24/04/2003, To Date: 30/06/2004, Replaced by: A2208274242
|-
|A2208274242
|From Date: 24/04/2003, To Date: 30/06/2004
|-
|A2208701089
|From Date: 31/07/2003, To Date: 01/12/2004, Replaced by: A2208702289
|-
|A2208702289
|From Date: 31/07/2003, To Date: 01/12/2004, Replaced by: A2208702489
|-
|A2208702489
|From Date: 31/07/2003, To Date: 01/12/2004
|-
|A2208703489
|From Date: 01/12/2004, Replaced by: A2208703889
|-
|A2208703889
|From Date: 01/12/2004
|}
 
== COMAND-APS (Japan) ==
Although MOST powered, Japanese version of COMAND-APS system ([[Data Card|option code]] 529) is completely different and therefore most likely nothing covered in this wiki applies to Japanese system.
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_Japan_A2208701189_front.jpg|thumb|none|]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_Japan_A2208701189_on.jpg|thumb|none]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_Japan_A2208701189_sockets.jpg|thumb|none]]
|}
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_Japan_A2208701189_label.jpg|thumb|none]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_Japan_A2208206089_back.jpg|thumb|none]]
|}
 
=== Part Numbers ===
For vehicles with option code [[Option_codes#529_-_COMAND_DVD_JAPAN_WITH_NAVIGATION|529 - COMAND DVD JAPAN WITH NAVIGATION]]:
{| class="wikitable"
! Part No.
! Notes
|-
|A2208206089
|From Date: 30/09/2002 To Date: 14/01/2004
|-
|A2208701189
|From Date: 14/01/2004 (replaced by A2208703189)
|-
|A2208703189
|From Date: 14/01/2004
|}
 
<!-- http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/electronics/28990-w220-japan-uk-specification-conversion-retrofit.html -->
 
== Wiring diagram ==
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_connected.jpg|thumb|none|COMAND-APS with connector plugged in.]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_socket.jpg|thumb|none|COMAND-APS connector socket.]]
|[[File:A0005458730_MOST_MQS_12-pin_housing.jpg|thumb|none|Connector housing (A0005458730).]]
|}
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_connectors_separated_wires.jpg|thumb|none|MQS 12-pin and MOST 2-pin plugs unplugged from housing.]]
|[[File:A0025458540_12-pin_MQS.jpg|thumb|none|MQS 12-pin plug (A0025458540).]]
|[[File:A0025459040_MOST_2-pin_plug.jpg|thumb|none|MOST 2-pin plug (A0025459040).]]
|}
 
MOST 2-pin plug:
* 1 (orange) - MOST in
* 2 (orange) - MOST out
 
MQS 12-pin plug:
* 1 (brown) - Ground (left inner door sill - ECE, right inner door sill - USA)
* 2 (red/yellow) - [[fuses|Fuse 22]] in the left fuse box
* 3 (blue/black) - MOST wakeup
* 9 (white) - FBAS (rear display system intermediate connector)
* 10 (transparent) - GND FBAS (rear display system intermediate connector)
 
The wire 9 and 10 in the connector is available only for vehicles equipped with
option code [[Option_codes#862_-_PROVISION_FOR_INSTALLATION_OF_TELEVISION|862 - PROVISION FOR INSTALLATION OF TELEVISION]].
 
[[File:W220_COMAND_MOST_connector.jpg|thumb|none|COMAND-APS connector for vehicles without option 862.]]
 
== Hidden Menu ==
== Hidden Menu ==


If you want to go into the "hidden" menus, please search the extensive thread at http://www.benzworld.org/forums/audi...ock-codes.html; but be aware that you may wind up damaging your system by playing in the hidden menus and not knowing what you are doing.
COMAND-APS hidden menu can be accessed by pressing buttons MUTE+1+3 and holding for a few seconds while in "Audio" menu.
 
{{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGziUnDhAo|320|left|Accessing COMAND-APS hidden menu.|frame}}
<br clear=all>
 
 
== Firmware Update ==
<!--
http://mbworld.org/forums/mobile-electronics-lighting/293361-comand-software-update-220589052200-a.html
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w220-s-class/1760577-looking-comand-firmware-update-service-cd.html
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w220-s-class/2247554-help-needed-comand-firmware-update-cd-2.html
-->
 
The latest COMAND-APS update disk for ECE and US models is W220589052200 released 04/10/2006 and updates COMAND-APS firmware to SW-Rel 22/06 - 25/06.
{|
|[[File:W220_W220589052200_case_front.jpg|thumb|none|W220589052200 case.]]
|[[File:W220_W220589052200_case_in.jpg|thumb|none|W220589052200 inside.]]
|[[File:W220_W220589052200_case_back.jpg|thumb|none|W220589052200 instructions.]]
|}
 
Insert disk into the head unit and wait until update process finishes.
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_firmware_update_process_1.jpg|200px]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_firmware_update_process_2.jpg|200px]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_firmware_update_process_3.jpg|200px]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_firmware_update_process_4.jpg|200px]]
|}
 
=== Changes Introduced ===
There have been reports that firmware update is required after phone retrofits to get communication platform functionality recognized.
Seemingly there are no visual changes introduced other than a new option in the hidden menu
"Copy autostore stations to stat" that copies radio stations found to station buttons.
 
[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_radio_station_copy_feature.jpg|thumb|none|Hidden menu option "Copy autostore stations to stat" in the latest COMAND-APS firmware.]]
 
=== Software Version in COMAND-APS Hidden Menu ===
The software version of head unit can be viewed in COMAND-APS hidden menu under
"Components -> Media -> Software Versions / ???".
 
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_Versions_before_update.jpg|thumb|none|Before update. SW Week 40/03.]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_Versions_after_update.jpg|thumb|none|After update. SW Week 25/06.]]
|}
 
=== Older Updates ===
The update disk W220589'''02'''2200 has been made obsolete by the release of W220589'''05'''2200 above.
[[File:W220_W220589022200_disk.jpg|thumb|none|W220589022200 update disk.]]
 
== MP3 DVD Burning ==
<!-- http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w220-s-class/2505713-do-i-have-mp3-my-cd-2.html -->
 
The COMAND can play MP3 files from a DVD disk inserted in the head unit.
However for what ever reason burning mp3 files for use in a W220 is not easy.  
 
The main issues are:
* It can take up to several minutes while COMAND loads the play list.
* DVD Dual Layer disks are not supported. COMAND reads the first layer, but not the second.
* COMAND supports subfolders. You can organize tracks in structure "Artist -> Album -> ..."
* Burn using ISO9660 + Joliet file system.
* Try to burn using the most compatible speed (usually slower is better).
 
== Video in Motion ==
By default COMAND will not show video (DVD/TV) if vehicle is in motion.
There are hardware kits available that on the CAN level block speed signal from reaching the COMAND,
however, video in motion can be easily enabled using SDS.
 
[[File:W220_MOST_COMAND_ECE_video_in_motion.jpg|thumb|none|Video in motion enabling menu in SDS.]]
 
== Multimedia Interface ==
 
{{:COMAND_Multimedia_interface}}
 
== AV Test DVD ==
 
MB part number W240589002200. Not COMAND specific. Can be used to test any DVD and audio system.
 
{|
|[[File:W240589002200_case.jpg|thumb|none|W240589002200 cover.]]
|[[File:W240589002200_disks.jpg|thumb|none|W240589002200 disks.]]
|}
{|
|[[File:240589002200_audio_tests_menu.jpg|thumb|none|Audio test menu.]]
|[[File:240589002200_video_tests_menu.jpg|thumb|none|Video test menu.]]
|}
 
== COMAND Removal ==
 
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND_removal_step1.jpg|thumb|none|'''STEP 1:''' Using a plastic pry tool, pry up on wooden trim above the radio to relaese plastic snaps.]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND_removal_step2.jpg|thumb|none|'''STEP 2:''' Unscrew the 2 mounting screws above the radio.]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND_removal_step3.jpg|thumb|none|'''STEP 3:''' Unscrew the 2 mounting screws below the ash tray.]]
|}
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND_removal_step4.jpg|thumb|none|'''STEP 4:''' Pull AC controls away from the dash to unclip 2 clips on each side of the dash.]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND_removal_step5.jpg|thumb|none|'''STEP 5:''' Unscrew 2 mounting screws below the radio. Pull the unit out of the dash.]]
|}
 
 
{{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pmKjyghEzg|320|left|COMAND Removal.|frame}}
<br clear=all>


Many people think that just by accessing these menus they can provide all kinds of features, like video in motion. You cannot. And, if you change the DVD region codes too often (about 5 times), you will lose the ability to play DVD audio.
== Laser Replacement ==
<!-- http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w220-s-class/2219385-siemens-ntg1-replacement-laser.html -->
The part number for laser is SF-HD4 with the straight flex cable. They come in two variants, one with the black cover and one with the white cover. The white cover replaces the black cover but either will do. They range from $15 dollars to $30 depending on the seller. There are many places online which sell it once you type in the model number like
[http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OPTICAL-PICK-UP-LASER-LENS-SF-HD4-STRAIGHT-LINE-WHITE-CAP-FOR-SANYO-DVD-/220981277883?rmvSB=true ebay] etc.
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_laser.jpg|thumb|none|Original laser (on the left) and aftermarket laser (on the right).]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND-APS_replacing_laser.jpg|thumb|none|COMAND dissected.]]
|}


People were using the hidden menus to make changes, and wound up rendering their COMANDs unusable. That is why Mercedes stopped making the codes available at all in later units.
== File System Damage ==
Several W220 owners have experienced COMAND failure which results in error message
"Flash file system damaged - will be formated now. Please don't switch off."
or
"Flash file system will be formatted. All user data lost. It could take up to 5 minutes. Please do not switch off!"
being shown.
The reappearing error suggests COMAND flash file system damage. The error is most likely caused by physical wear of flash memory chip in COMAND.


Reference:
{|
|[[File:W220_COMAND_MOST_file_system_damaged.jpg|thumb|none|COMAND shows file system damaged error.]]
|[[File:W220_COMAND_MOST_file_system_will_be_formatted.jpg|thumb|none|COMAND shows file system format message.]]
|}


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8UF3x7gO_8
== Dissecting COMAND (ECE) A2208274142 ==
The pictures below provide COMAND (ECE) A2208274142 dissected in parts.
* The parts can be disassembled and reassembled back together easily without damaging the COMAND.
* Detaching LCD from metal frame is not so straightforward.
* Panel can be dissected even more by removing separate buttons.
* COMAND should boot-up even with DVD and cassette player mechanism detached.
* COMAND should boot-up even with LCD cable and LCD motor cable unplugged.
* If the COMAND does not power on, the most likely failure is in the motherboard or the upper motherboard.
* Fan is engaged when needed and hence is not a reliable indicator of powered up COMAND.
{|
|[[File:A2208274142_cover_removed.jpg|thumb|none|Cover removed.]]
|[[File:A2208274142_casette_module_removed.jpg|thumb|none|Cassette player mechanism removed.]]
|[[File:A2208274142_upper_motherboard_removed.jpg|thumb|none|Upper motherboard removed.]]
|}
{|
|[[File:A2208274142_motherboard_attached.jpg|thumb|none|LCD frame removed.]]
|[[File:A2208274142_DVD_player_module.jpg|thumb|none|DVD player mechanism.]]
|[[File:A2208274142_casette_module.jpg|thumb|none|Casette player mechanism.]]
|}
{|
|[[File:A2208274142_upper_motherboard_front.jpg|thumb|none|Upper motherboard (front).]]
|[[File:A2208274142_upper_motherboard_back.jpg|thumb|none|Upper motherboard (back).]]
|}
{|
|[[File:A2208274142_motherboard_front.jpg|thumb|none|Motherboard (front).]]
|[[File:A2208274142_motherboard_back.jpg|thumb|none|Motherboard (back).]]
|}
{|
|[[File:A2208274142_panel_front.jpg|thumb|none|Panel (front).]]
|[[File:A2208274142_panel_back.jpg|thumb|none|Panel (back).]]
|}
{|
|[[File:A2208274142_LCD_with_frame_front.jpg|thumb|none|LCD in frame (front).]]
|[[File:A2208274142_LCD_with_frame_back.jpg|thumb|none|LCD in frame (back).]]
|}

Latest revision as of 15:23, 29 August 2017

COMAND-APS (ECE)

For vehicles with option code 527 (ECE):

Part No. Notes
A2208271942 From Date: 28/10/2003, To Date: 30/06/2004
A2208274142 From Date: 28/10/2003, To Date: 30/06/2004
A2208702189 From Date: 29/06/2004, To Date: 01/12/2004, Replaced by: A2208702389
A2208702389 From Date: 29/06/2004, To Date: 01/12/2004
A2208703389 From Date: 01/12/2004, To Date: 04/04/2005, Replaced by: A2208703789
A2208703789 From Date: 01/12/2004, Replaced by: A2208702589
A2208702589 From Date: 01/12/2004, No cassette player

COMAND-APS (USA)

For vehicles with option code 530 - COMAND DVD APS USA WITH NAVIGATION:

The USA COMAND version from ECE version does not differ much. In USA version all buttons have text while ECE version uses pictograms. A significant difference is that USA version has "SAT" button for Satellite Radio, while ECE version has "VIDEO" button for watching DVDs and optionally TV.

Part No. Notes
A2208272042 From Date: 24/04/2003, To Date: 30/06/2004, Replaced by: A2208274242
A2208274242 From Date: 24/04/2003, To Date: 30/06/2004
A2208701089 From Date: 31/07/2003, To Date: 01/12/2004, Replaced by: A2208702289
A2208702289 From Date: 31/07/2003, To Date: 01/12/2004, Replaced by: A2208702489
A2208702489 From Date: 31/07/2003, To Date: 01/12/2004
A2208703489 From Date: 01/12/2004, Replaced by: A2208703889
A2208703889 From Date: 01/12/2004

COMAND-APS (Japan)

Although MOST powered, Japanese version of COMAND-APS system (option code 529) is completely different and therefore most likely nothing covered in this wiki applies to Japanese system.

Part Numbers

For vehicles with option code 529 - COMAND DVD JAPAN WITH NAVIGATION:

Part No. Notes
A2208206089 From Date: 30/09/2002 To Date: 14/01/2004
A2208701189 From Date: 14/01/2004 (replaced by A2208703189)
A2208703189 From Date: 14/01/2004


Wiring diagram

COMAND-APS with connector plugged in.
COMAND-APS connector socket.
Connector housing (A0005458730).
MQS 12-pin and MOST 2-pin plugs unplugged from housing.
MQS 12-pin plug (A0025458540).
MOST 2-pin plug (A0025459040).

MOST 2-pin plug:

  • 1 (orange) - MOST in
  • 2 (orange) - MOST out

MQS 12-pin plug:

  • 1 (brown) - Ground (left inner door sill - ECE, right inner door sill - USA)
  • 2 (red/yellow) - Fuse 22 in the left fuse box
  • 3 (blue/black) - MOST wakeup
  • 9 (white) - FBAS (rear display system intermediate connector)
  • 10 (transparent) - GND FBAS (rear display system intermediate connector)

The wire 9 and 10 in the connector is available only for vehicles equipped with option code 862 - PROVISION FOR INSTALLATION OF TELEVISION.

COMAND-APS connector for vehicles without option 862.

Hidden Menu

COMAND-APS hidden menu can be accessed by pressing buttons MUTE+1+3 and holding for a few seconds while in "Audio" menu.

Load video
YouTube
Accessing COMAND-APS hidden menu.



Firmware Update

The latest COMAND-APS update disk for ECE and US models is W220589052200 released 04/10/2006 and updates COMAND-APS firmware to SW-Rel 22/06 - 25/06.

W220589052200 case.
W220589052200 inside.
W220589052200 instructions.

Insert disk into the head unit and wait until update process finishes.

Changes Introduced

There have been reports that firmware update is required after phone retrofits to get communication platform functionality recognized. Seemingly there are no visual changes introduced other than a new option in the hidden menu "Copy autostore stations to stat" that copies radio stations found to station buttons.

Hidden menu option "Copy autostore stations to stat" in the latest COMAND-APS firmware.

Software Version in COMAND-APS Hidden Menu

The software version of head unit can be viewed in COMAND-APS hidden menu under "Components -> Media -> Software Versions / ???".

Before update. SW Week 40/03.
After update. SW Week 25/06.

Older Updates

The update disk W220589022200 has been made obsolete by the release of W220589052200 above.

W220589022200 update disk.

MP3 DVD Burning

The COMAND can play MP3 files from a DVD disk inserted in the head unit. However for what ever reason burning mp3 files for use in a W220 is not easy.

The main issues are:

  • It can take up to several minutes while COMAND loads the play list.
  • DVD Dual Layer disks are not supported. COMAND reads the first layer, but not the second.
  • COMAND supports subfolders. You can organize tracks in structure "Artist -> Album -> ..."
  • Burn using ISO9660 + Joliet file system.
  • Try to burn using the most compatible speed (usually slower is better).

Video in Motion

By default COMAND will not show video (DVD/TV) if vehicle is in motion. There are hardware kits available that on the CAN level block speed signal from reaching the COMAND, however, video in motion can be easily enabled using SDS.

Video in motion enabling menu in SDS.

Multimedia Interface

COMAND multimedia interfaces

COMAND Multimedia Interface is an aftermarket add-on that allows to use COMAND display for A/V sources such as aftermarket navigation, DVD player, DVBT, rear view camera, video game console, car PC, iPod video or any other video source.

Rear view camera input using multimedia interface.

We are aware of two W220 multimedia interfaces for MOST-based COMANDs:

  1. Connects2 CT90-MC04 (input sources can be switched using the COMAND "NAV" button and remote control).
  2. Car Solutions RGB-LE-V3.1 (input sources are switchable only using toggle switch and remote control, the converter makes loud clicking noise when switching between sources).

These interfaces will not work on D2B-based widescreen COMANDs as shown in the video below (D2B COMANDs have different ribbon cable).

Load video
YouTube
Trying video interface on D2B widescreen COMAND

Connecting smartphone to COMAND

The HDMI2AV converter can be used to connect HDMI-enabled devices to COMAND multimedia interface.

HDMI to AV converter (EUR 6).

If the phone has MHL-enabled Micro-USB port the cable below can be used to get HDMI video output.

Micro-USB (MHL) to HDMI cable (EUR 3).
Micro-USB (MHL) to HDMI cable.
Samsung Galaxy S5 connected.

The cable has extra USB plug that is used to to charge the phone and to convert MHL signal to HDMI output. The same USB plug supplies power also to the HDMI2AV converter, hence the HDMI2AV box does no need to be powered separately (HDMI2AV box has Mini-USB port). HDMI2AV box consumes around 110mA (80mA standby) from the 5V power supply.

AV Test DVD

MB part number W240589002200. Not COMAND specific. Can be used to test any DVD and audio system.

W240589002200 cover.
W240589002200 disks.
Audio test menu.
Video test menu.

COMAND Removal

STEP 1: Using a plastic pry tool, pry up on wooden trim above the radio to relaese plastic snaps.
STEP 2: Unscrew the 2 mounting screws above the radio.
STEP 3: Unscrew the 2 mounting screws below the ash tray.
STEP 4: Pull AC controls away from the dash to unclip 2 clips on each side of the dash.
STEP 5: Unscrew 2 mounting screws below the radio. Pull the unit out of the dash.


Load video
YouTube
COMAND Removal.


Laser Replacement

The part number for laser is SF-HD4 with the straight flex cable. They come in two variants, one with the black cover and one with the white cover. The white cover replaces the black cover but either will do. They range from $15 dollars to $30 depending on the seller. There are many places online which sell it once you type in the model number like ebay etc.

Original laser (on the left) and aftermarket laser (on the right).
COMAND dissected.

File System Damage

Several W220 owners have experienced COMAND failure which results in error message "Flash file system damaged - will be formated now. Please don't switch off." or "Flash file system will be formatted. All user data lost. It could take up to 5 minutes. Please do not switch off!" being shown. The reappearing error suggests COMAND flash file system damage. The error is most likely caused by physical wear of flash memory chip in COMAND.

COMAND shows file system damaged error.
COMAND shows file system format message.

Dissecting COMAND (ECE) A2208274142

The pictures below provide COMAND (ECE) A2208274142 dissected in parts.

  • The parts can be disassembled and reassembled back together easily without damaging the COMAND.
  • Detaching LCD from metal frame is not so straightforward.
  • Panel can be dissected even more by removing separate buttons.
  • COMAND should boot-up even with DVD and cassette player mechanism detached.
  • COMAND should boot-up even with LCD cable and LCD motor cable unplugged.
  • If the COMAND does not power on, the most likely failure is in the motherboard or the upper motherboard.
  • Fan is engaged when needed and hence is not a reliable indicator of powered up COMAND.
Cover removed.
Cassette player mechanism removed.
Upper motherboard removed.
LCD frame removed.
DVD player mechanism.
Casette player mechanism.
Upper motherboard (front).
Upper motherboard (back).
Motherboard (front).
Motherboard (back).
Panel (front).
Panel (back).
LCD in frame (front).
LCD in frame (back).
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